Namaste dear Ram

Thanx for the exchange, which I felt, made what you are saying clearer and more applicable to current times.

I must say when I heard that Rahm Emanuel accepted the offered position I didn't know who he was and wondered if he had the same background as you Ram. Apparently he has been active with Israel and is of a Jewish background. I hope Iran doesn't hold that against any negotiations.

Here's a little what is termed 'conspiracy theory' to throw into the mix of discussion (seriously) - I heard that through DNA manipulation synthetic clone-types have been around for a long time - was Bush really Bush? The problem seems to be that they are more synthetic and less capable of reflecting the Spirit through Soul. If there is truth here it is a reason why we must keep our authentic connection to Source active so as to continually infuse this environment with Source Spirit awareness.

" The Times They Are A Changin' " To Joy for All -Starr*

--- On Sat, Nov 8, 2008, in msg265730, Ram Varma wrote ---

Hi Starr*, et all,

Thanks for your interaction. Continuing the dialogue, here are my comments to some interesting areas you have highlighted:

Ram: I feel President-Elect is a great role model in this context. As he, in his autheticity, dedication and clarity transmits such unified vibrations. That's how we can all look forward to great times ahead. And being parts and parcels of the One great movement of Oneness as is.

Starr*: As a role model Obama's unified vibrations that you speak of means using 'Intellect' or "Mind of God/ess" in interacting globally. If you take Obama as the role model then it figures when we do this too it is from the same Integral Context of Oneness of which you speak.

Ram: Of course, anyone who is established in the Self and whose modus-operandi is in complete sync with the inner prompts of the Self/Spirit is following the first essential aspect of the same integral context that we have been communicating about. As the full integral context is three-faced. First one is being one with the individual Self; second one is being one with all that is (i.e. Self to Self...Namastey). And third one is with the Source/God. The last two steps cannnot happen without knowing and experiencing the first step. That's why many seers of the Truth say that Self-realization is God- Realization. And in between these two realizations is the realization of being one with all the universal creation as is. To me, Obama reflects these essential traits in his thoughts, feelings and actions. That's why I consider him an Integral role model of the current times. What we see is just the beginning of our seeing the tip of the iceberg. That's why I say we can safely hope for the best times ahead. Although for things to return to Clinton's prosperous times ,it can take as much as 10 years as per Obama's relevant assertions. This also seem to bear well with the 12 years astronomical cycle of multiple growth as portrayed by our astrologer Dogon at UCS. Makes full sense to me anyway.

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Starr*: >>>I would be happier if, in his unified vibrations, he included a woman in his cabinet. So far he only has Susie Rice as an advisor. Is this correct? Rahm Emanuel, as Obama's Chief, has a reputation for shaking things up - so the Obama team may be really pin-pointing issues and getting them out on the table so people can discuss and negotiate. I don't think this process should be labelled egotistical and therefore not of the Inegral Context Plan, whether he or we do it, so long as we keep our eye on the goal of Wholeness and therefore stay aware of Interconnectedness while protecting the God-given rights of the individual.<<<

Ram: When I talk about the egoistical and controlling attitude, I relate to this kind of attitude when a person is only operating in a selfish mode from the three dimensions of the body- mind-intellectual set. In the Integral Context, there has to be the fourth dimension of the Self/Spirit guiding the whole show. And having done our level best by using our three dimensional set as guided by the Self, then this person leaves it alone. And in Self-Awareness lets the Universal Orchestrator look after all the outcomes. Thereby realizing the intrinsic freedom, awareness and jofullness.....the essential God-given attributes. And being That that he/she intrinsically is.

Regarding the Obama picking up the females in the cabinet, I have a feeling it is in the works and on its way as long as the person selected fills the essential requirements of the job entrusted. His search for the right person for the right job has been in the works for quite some time so far as I understand it. If he doesn't, he will weaken himself which I believe he will not let it happen consciously. Let's wait and observe patiently for the next 3-4 weeks. And we will know what comes out from his awareness basket full of many opportunities/potentials ahead.

Thank you again, Starr*, for a great interaction with you. It is always fulfilling to have an authentic dialogue such as this one. The more we dialogue authentically, the more we move ahead with our ongoing Self-development. Thanks to Bruce for providing such a beautiful forum for the blossoming out of our united authentic efforts in this beautiful direction. I do feel that we together are moving forward in this new cycle of unity-consciousness. And unique contribtions from all the members are just enhancing the beatitude.

With Love and Best Wishes.........Ram

--- On Sat, Nov 8, 2008, in msg265720, Ram Varma wrote ---

Hi All,

Thanks so very kindly for your wonderful contributions to the Integral Context. How fortunate that many of us can feel in our open receptive minds that we are now entering a new era in which we can transcend all limitation of "the One Supreme God/Source". In fact, it is now a declaration of ultimate victory to be practically achieved/experienced, in the course of time, by consistently knowing the Truth as is and doing our whole duty from this conscious awareness. In this Self-Awareness:

1. Let's now recognize and feel the Presence of the Divine Energy of the Spirit in all what we do. This is a quality that gives a touch of divinity to matter. It is this feeling-knowing that brings us into the Newness and Unity of Life; both individually and collectively.

2. Egoistic-controlling attitude is the greatest barrier in this respect. It puts thoughts together; both individually and collectively; that veil the face of the true spiritual Light/Energy. This illusory curtain of ignorance then separates us from seeing the newness and unity of life.

Keeping these two considerations in the forefront we now have a common goal of Oneness/The Integral Context. And we do need to know about it and experience it in our day to day living. In this regard let's go a bit more in detail as follows:

1. Knowing: This is a rational understanding at the level of mind/intellect. To hold something in one's mind as true. Or what it purports to. Something that makes sense. To become cognizant as such.

2. Experiencing: This is an intuitive understanding as it pertains to something in the moment at the level of intrinsic soul. One becomes aware of the inner deep original truth or factuality as it flows effortlessly/spontaneously in one's inner silence. Something that feels like being that one naturally is. And feels it absolutely right for the benefit of all connected with the situations as presented. To experience internally, we would need to allow ourselves to take our thoughts and feelings of Oneness/Integral Context deeper into our inner being. So that we could discover and begin to experience our original strength of Oneness and embedded into it our intrinsic strengths such as peace, love, joy, freedom, awareness and truth as is.

It is through experiencing this original quality and strength of Oneness in which Peace, love, joy, freedom, awareness, truth is intinsically inherent, the individual personality/character begins to transform on its own according to the original quality and strength experienced. And one also begins to transmute the past karmas effortlessly. And ego begins to evaporate on its own, withouht fighting with it. Without this experience, all else is just an intellectual understanding that stays there only at the level of mind and intellect only. For this knowledge to penetrate inwardly, the soul is inviting it be its experiencer and be one with it. In this oneness one experiences, " I am One with All, I am peace, and so on...". And further to it, being its transmitter/radiator to the rest of the universe. Thus the individual Self seeing the same Self in all others........experiencing the original inheritance of being the same as the Infinite Consciousness. And, of naturally being One with all that is. It is only by letting this inner experience happen to us in our inner silence in our own unique way, we can practically see the truth of what Oneness or what Integral context is all about. Then behaving/performing our roles accordingly as our individual contributions to the Nature's universal orchestration. Further to it, please be rest assured, 'Ah Ha..Vow!' is all in our hands in all we truly/deeply aspire to know and experience. As in this process our individual truths merge with the One Truth that is. Like many streams/ rivers merging into the One ocean. It is in this co-creative process we manifest our true aspirations as they are. What is inside that's what reflects outside.

In conclusion, the whole game starts with us individually; being one with ourselves. Then it is automatically followed by being One with the universe as it. When this begins to happen, Oneness with the Source is spontaneous and effortless. And we begin to experience the Oneness/Integral context as is. I feel President-Elect is a great role model in this context. As he, in his autheticity, dedication and clarity transmits such unified vibrations. That's how we can all look forward to great times ahead. And being parts and parcels of the One great movement of Oneness as is.

Comments?

Soul-felt thanks to all of you for sending great connecting vibrations of Oneness. I am feeling them and enjoying together with all of you.

With Love and Best Wishes........Ram

--- On Sat, Nov 8, 2008, in msg265718, Starr* Saffa wrote ---

Hi - This man was a noted radio personality in Hawaii for many years. He received a message communicated to him from beyond about the United Constitution for these Days. He changed his name to the title of the message, Trika. Here is his last post in case you are interested in the message and Constitution. I do agree with the idea of protection of personal sovereignity while being connected and interactive to the Whole. I'd be interested in your thoughts. Starr*

From: Triaka Smith Sent: Friday, November 7, 2008 2:56 PM To: Triaka@webtv.net Subject: YOUR FREEWILL AUTHORITY

Aloha! Previously, I put forward that "the choice now before humanity is whether to claim Personal Sovereignty or continue to give power away to external authority" such as to national governments which are dominated by Controllers and Manipulators of political and economic power.

What is meant by "Personal Sovereignty" is your Natural Right to Sovereign Freewill which all normal human beings are born with, and which includes several qualities;

1. INHERENT = existing as your essential constituent or characteristic.

2. INTRINSIC = your fundamental nature.

3. INBORN = possessed by you as an organism.

4. INGRAINED = worked deeply into your texture or fiber.

5. INSTINCTIVE = your natural capability or aptitude.

6. INTUITIVE = the act or faculty of your knowing without the use of rational processes: immediate cognition.

7. INALIENABLE = these qu alities belong to you and cannot be transferred to another.

The "World Cooperative" CONSTITUTION of UNITED DIVERSITY empowers, protects and balances these Natural Rights of Freewill for the Highest Good of All http://groups.yahoo.com/group/uniteddiversity

In the Spirit of Aloha, Triaka http:www.globalvisions.org/cl/swn ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

The challenge for President Obama is to FREE THE SLAVES!

NEW HEAVEN, NEW EARTH, NEW AGE, NEW DIMENSIONS

The choice now before humanity is whether to claim Personal Sovereignty or continue to give power away to external authority.

The idea that any human being is qualified to RULE another human being AGAINST HIS/HER WILL is arrogance on the face of it and ignorance of social skills as well as the reality of the cosmos.

FREE THE SLAVES

"We, the People, hold these truths to be self-evident, that all human beings are endowed with certain Inherent, Intrinsic, Inborn, Ingrained, Instinctive, Intuitive and Inalienable Natural Rights of Sovereign Freewill, that among these are Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness. And that whenever any form of government becomes destructive of these Rights, it is the right of the People to institute new Mechanisms of Protection and Balance for Peaceful Relations" (Declaration of Sovereign Freewill).

The Rights of Sovereign Freewill of each member of the entire human family are Protected and Balanced for the Highest Good of All by the "World Cooperative" CONSTITUTION of UNITED DIVERSITY http://groups.yahoo.com /group/uniteddiversity uniteddiversity- subscribe@yahoogroups.com

In the Spirit of Aloha, Triaka http://www.globalvisions.org /cl/swn

--- On Sat, Nov 8, 2008, in msg265717, Starr* Saffa wrote ---

Commentary for Bruce re Integral Politics & Obama’s Vision by Starr* Saffa

Bruce: “One thing I am feeling -- is that his arrival on the scene is part of a larger global process -- towards "something" that we are trying to define. It's called "the shift" by many people -- and for many people, it's very mysterious, full of arcane symbols and unknown mystical forces. “

Starr*: Like you, I am excited to see a man of vision elected to US Presidency. He even looks like some of my family members (blood and skin). For this reason alone, I want him to succeed in his decisions. He is a peer of my half sister who was raised (partially by me) in Hawaii at the very same time. She is a masterful business woman in this day. Most of all I want him to succeed in world affairs because of his idealistic and altruistic spiritual awareness. I don’t want those ideals to be a cause for dumbing- down Human Rights and full Equality for all people in the name of harmony and global peace.

This commentary is not to take away from any of the hope and enthusiasm for positive change, but rather a call for people to keep their own eyes opened rather than to put all their eggs in one basket, as the saying goes. With eyes wide opened we can support and be part of efforts for a building a peaceful world. As you know I have always said the Tahirih Path was about politics beyond politics where the divine law of personal intuition of the individual is continually interactive. I think the Integral Political Plan says much the same. This writing is to amplify that awareness.

As you and GRN posters know I once belonged to a religion that has been preaching the Unity and Oneness of mankind since it reached the Western shores in the early 1900’s and makes the claim of being the most spread religion in the world. This religion largely influenced US Presidents and the formation of the United Nations where they have held NGO (non- governmental organizations) consultative status throughout the years. Their aim has been what they call a New World Order which includes International Governing Bodies. It is foreseen that eventually, into the future, these Institutions will merge into the religion’s Governing Body and become the World Commonwealth.

This religion’s writings, in spelling out the way that the Nations come together and are governed, say that the “Rights of the individual will be preserved’ in spite of Nations having to give up some of their National sovereignty. All this sounds a lot like spiritualized “Integral Politics” with a concern for the internal as well as the external. However, as an example, the way it has played out in this religion so far has been a move towards sacrificing human rights for the good of the majority by the individual submitting personal conscience to the religions Institutions composed of nine men.

Now when it comes to Human Rights it would seem that it would be preferable to take the highest form that has been accomplished in the world rather than blending all those rights from all the cultures of the world for the sake of forming a global commonwealth because it is not a true peace or unity when Human Rights are compromised.

I know that Barack Hussein Obama, as President of the US, is dedicated to opening up negotiations with Russia, Iran, and China in bringing about world unity. I love the ideal of consultation in the name of Peace, but I do not believe in compromise where Human Rights are concerned. How can we do this? Will Obama see a way?

Women are in a precarious position! For instance, women in the majority of the world are under patriarchy and do not have equal rights. The religion I belonged to said that women and men are equal; yet they practice inequality when it comes to the top community decision making (the governing body that global Institutions will one day merge into).

Now here’s the concern. This religion’s Leaders say that in order to make it better for the majority of women in third world countries of the world it is necessary for women in first Nations to give up some rights and meet somewhere in the middle (de-evolution of rights).

An example of this might be as follows: In America the early colonists fought hard to ensure that women could inherit equally under the law. However, in Islam and Bahá’í, the teaching is that women can not inherit the family home and rather it should go to the first born son. In Bahá’í this is under the intestacy laws, however, there is no provision that a husband must name his wife in his will in any case. So after years of working in the family and contributing to the family home financially the wife has no assurance of a home if her husband dies without naming her in his will as the owner of the house, and thus her efforts are in the category of slavery and second class citizenship.

Western women who follow these kinds of religious laws forfeit the equality they had under the inheritance laws of the land where they were born, thus devaluing their humanity as equal participants.

Islam, like Bahá’í, is wide-spread and forms a good majority of the world where these kinds of religious laws impact the governments – especially in Iran. Thus, compromising women’s rights in the name of peace negotiations could in the long run not only be harmful but bring the free world back into a form of patriarchal slavery. Is this peace? Certainly, I hope Michelle Obama will be watchful of preventing these kinds of negotiations from impacting the free world where women are concerned.

Therefore, it is very important, and ‘Integral’ to have the internal eye operational in any peace agreements that affects the whole, men and women alike.

The Integral Political Plan as suggested, says much the same, but leaves some loop holes in my opinion. I’ll briefly mention them in capital letters next to the solutions proposed below.

———————————————————————————————————————————————-- INTEGRAL POLITICS—HOW THINGS COULD BE TOMORROW by Bruce Schuman ————————————————————————————————————————————————

1. An awareness and claim that all things are interrelated in one integral context of wholeness, being and oneness. YES THIS IS A GOOD START ————————————————————————————————————————————————

2. Assertion that this integral context is the foundation of all metaphysical systems, as found in all major religions, and this context is valid outside the context of faith and belief. THE OPPOSITE IS ALSO IN THE WRITINGS OF RELIGONS, SO THINK BEYOND OLD RELGIOUS CANON. ————————————————————————————————————————————————–

3. Whole– many independent forces operating within a single context, with awareness that, though independent, they are also interdependent and interconnected. GREAT AWARENESS ————————————————————————————————————————————————–

4. Harmonious NOT IN THE NAME OF CONFORMITY, OBEDIENCE, INJUSTICE AND INEQUALITY (KEEP THE HIGHEST STANDARDS). ————————————————————————————————————————————————–

5. Co-creative—both/and, all participants “win” at least something NOT IF IT MEANS WOMEN BECOME SECONDARY CITIZENS ETC. ————————————————————————————————————————————————

6. Fully conscious of larger absolute context, and emerging from it YES – GREAT EDUCATION (universal high standards) ———————————————————————————————————————————————–

7. Multiple points of view arise within the context of the whole, and all of these points of view contain insight of value, that should be factored into the collective decision process. IMPURE MOTIVE MUST NOT MANIPULATE AND EFFECT ALL. ————————————————————————————————————————————————–

8. We evolve a method for interconnecting these elements. THERE IS ONE - SEE RICHTER’S LAWS BELOW ————————————————————————————————————————————————–

9. We are all on the same team. WHEN FORCE AND HIDDEN AGENDAS ARE NO LONGER IN PLAY. ————————————————————————————————————————————————–

10. My tribe likes getting together with your tribe. Exciting and creative things happen. BREAKING DOWN BARRIERS ————————————————————————————————————————————————

11. Issues are complicated and multifaceted, and if anybody really knew the “right” position on a particular issue, it wouldn’t be an issue. We need to get all the facts and perspectives on the table and work it out. THE RICHTOR MACHINE PLUGS INTO THE WHOLE. ————————————————————————————————————————————————

12. We all need to change our behaviour a little bit. We all share in the blame and responsibility. There is darkness in all of us; let’s work together to get beyond it, and not let this factor break trust between us. WORKING IN LIGHT, LOVE AND AWARENESS IS THE WAY FORWARD ————————————————————————————————————————————————

13. I am my brothers and sister keeper. CARING IS GREAT - PANOPTICON IMPLICATIONS NO. ————————————————————————————————————————————————–

14. We are all interconnected parts. No man or woman is an island. We are all related. TRUE ———————————————————————————————————————————————–—

15. Working together is more powerful, more accurate and authentic, and more fun. IF IT DOESN’T PRODUCE GROUP THINK & CONTROL —————————————————————————————————————————————–——–

16. No one mind can hold all these factors; we have to work together as a team. YES —————————————————————————————————————————————–———

17. I am personally responsible for the welfare of the whole (absolute inclusion). MY PART IN THE WHOLE. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- --

18. We must develop new holistic models of critically interdependent processes that include all relevant aspects. BASED ON MAGNETICS POWERED BY LOVE AS A BASIS, THUS “EMPOWERED INDIVIDUALS” COMPOSING SOCIETY ————————————————————————————————————————————————–

19. Freedom: if “all points of view are of equal value and all must be counted and treated with respect”, then all these points of view should be subject to a simple kind of validation by some kind of empirical verification (“scientific method”), in so far as possible. Individuals are invited to add their perspectives and information to the larger picture, insofar as their information is verifiably accurate and valid, as measured by some simple universal standards of science and good scholarship. RICHTER’S MACHINE – see below

End of chart. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----

In another discussion you mentioned that even though we are One we have different opinions when it comes to preferences in the needs and laws of a land. I think we need to look for new methodology for handling these differences when it comes to finding solutions. Why limit ourselves to political negotiations.

In my book, Tahirih Thealogy, in the Quantum Physics chapter, I mention the Richter Post Computer Machine which could be used for solving interpersonal relationships from the individual to the world at large. Pages 241-243. I think I’ve mentioned it here before too – but it could be the scientific method you were looking for in number 19 so I mention it again for this discussion.

Richter Post-computer machine Recently (June 2004) Paul Rincon of the BBC News Online science staff reported there has been a ‘teleportation’ breakthrough on atoms for the first time. The article says:

“The ability to transfer key properties of one particle to another without using any physical link has until now only been achieved with laser light. Experts say being able to do the same with massive particles like atoms could lead to new super fast computers.”

However, a post-computer machine has already been devised based on the Richter’s Laws which already taps into All That Is. “Richter’s Laws: A Handbook For Human Success in a Post-Computer World”, by H.G.P. Colebatch. Phd.

Richter invented the Neuronetic Reasoning Machine (lattice technology) and its science, a technology that is changing the world.

He based his map-like machine on the workings of the human brain. Its hexagonal cell configuration with a point in each connecting hexagon is so simple a child can operate it. Richter saw that all information is ‘connected’, bringing the insight of ‘intuition’ into the human brain and thus he devised the Neuronetic Reasoning Machine to facilitate as an extension of the mind to solve problems in .87th of a second – which is working ‘In Real Time’. This design overcomes the limitations of computers. Richter says everything is connected to everything and calls it the C.E.N.D. (connect everything not denied). This machine and reasoning has no theoretical limit. Richter saw that there was a gestalt where the ‘whole was larger than the sum of its parts’.

Richter identified the power of relational connectivity which led to the full realization of connectivity through the cognitive cell system.

Layers for Relational Connectivity: If you feature a rainbow of colors arched within the brain, the outer layer is in the red range of functional operation; next is the orange or rational contiguity; yellow is deductive or logical; green is the data information, and blue is the knowledge educational representation; indigo or purple is the inductive intuition learning; and violet holds the global awareness.

The Neuronetic Real Time Reasoning Machine has an internal structure of reusable ‘neuron cells’ which fire in parallel giving a colossal number of highly adaptable cell connections to a hierarchy of memories.

The application of this machine to every aspect of human life is astronomical and revolutionary. It can take all the data and come up with the BEST SOLUTION with the data base being the world and having an instant connectivity.

Richter’s Laws: A handbook For Human Success In A Post Computer World”, H.G.P. Colebatch. PhD. (Graham Brash Ltd. Published, Singapore, 1995) ISBN 981-218-049-4

I hope this helps us go further in developing a beautiful Consciousness that works for all as we move into the next Cycle - and that the awkening Bruce dreams of affects not only the masses but the Leaders. Living Love, Starr*

--- On Fri, Nov 7, 2008, in msg265707, Bruce Schuman wrote ---

Good morning --

Just a couple small thoughts on this theme, that might help make it clearer....

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We could say -- that "Oneness" is known, or knowable, by an individual human being, through a process of self-realization. We follow a spiritual path, we "reap a harvest of grace" in some way, and this Oneness becomes known to us. We experience it -- as a private and personal thing.

And this same energy and knowing -- becomes available or accessible to more than one person -- in a shared way, that creates a kind of "resonant field" -- when two or more people can feel or share this kind of experience. Put simply -- this is what "namaste" is about. Something like "The Oneness in me is One with the Oneness in you."

"Your Oneness and my Oneness are the same Oneness..."

"One Oneness in two bodies...."

Something like that.

So, at one level, we are one, and, put very mystically, I AM you, and you are me....

But -- there is this planet we share. Although we are one in this sense -- we are also different. Suppose it turns out that we disagree on a political issue. You are a rancher, and feel strongly that more water in our local river must be allocated to the farmers and ranchers. I am a city-dweller, and feel that more water must come into the city for drinking and bathing and lawns. "We are One" -- but we disagree on this issue. Are we going to let this issue divide us, and break this Oneness? Or are we going to find a way to resolve the issue within the context of Oneness?

Being completely practical -- we could simply say that people have always fought over these issues, and they always will. So "get real" -- these idealistic dreams are never going to come true.

Or -- if something in our souls is spiritual to the core, and we feel that the destiny of human civilization will and ultimately must be deeply spiritual -- maybe we can continue to believe that within an unbroken context of Namaste -- human civilization can and eventually will work out its differences...

For me -- it feels as through the calling on this planet -- my own little sense of "mission" -- is to continue to defend the absolute ideal -- even if I know that it is very unlikely to be realized in its fullest sense.

I want to see an awakening -- to this sense of "Integral Context" -- or, if a better word can be suggested -- simply to this sense of unity and oneness and wholeness -- that really is the context of the human experience on this planet.

For me, as I see it -- there IS a universal spirituality that can and will and should inform the collective decisions we human beings make, as we shape our collective destiny b