Hey Betty,

I remember your family very well, Especially your dad Paul. He was the first Motorcycle Police officer, and had a thing about stopping me for nothing, just to tease me. Of course he did not have to go out of his way since I lived just down the street. I also remember your mother and dad working on the gardens at the Lutheran church at Mt. Gleason and Apperson. Oh, and your mother's beautiful sand paintings, especially the one at Rev. Mittelstat's church in the desert. It seems that our parents were all very special people.

------ On 8/27/08, David Petta wrote ------

Jim, you really brought back some memories! My dad bought two lots next to each other on the east side of Oro Vista just off Apperson. He paid $500.00 for each lot, built a little house on one lot, and we moved in around Thanksgiving of 1948.

Oro Vista was a dirt road at the time. Pepper trees lined the west side of the road with the orange orchard all the way from Apperson towards the north just around Wyngate. The pepper trees were huge, and great climbing trees. They provided shade for our yard on late summer afternoons as the sun sank in the west. The down side of the pepper trees was that, when us rugrats insisted on misbehaving, Mom would head across the street to cut a switch. We knew what was coming! We would moan and groan, "Oh no, Mom's getting a switch!" Sometimes, all she would have to do was to threaten to get a switch and that would be enough to straighten us up.

Eventually, Oro Vista was paved, the pepper trees were cut down, the orchard too, and houses were built. The memories remain, though! Elizabeth (Betty Norby) Petta W'61

------ On 8/27/08, Jim Kampschroer wrote ------

Yes the Barnharts were people that lived in sunland before the developement. their poperty was from the corner of Oro vista and Apperson down about half way to Foothill. The width was allmost to Florita ave, Mostly grew oranges.

Jim Kampschroer S56

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