GLOBAL ATONEMENT - FEED WHAT YOU WANT TO GROW
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From: Michael E.
Date: Tuesday, January 6, 2009, 7:33 PM
Subject: Global Atonement - Feed what you want to grow
Reply to: 266584
ID: 266587
HAMAS and ISLAM
Please see encosed yuoutube video http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=9i57PrvlCWo&NR=1
It is somewhat biased towards Israel but also shows the way Moslems treat their fellow muslims which in this video is with what appears to be utter cruelty and hatred.
In alot of the Muslim countries of the World the codes of behavious as we aall know are resrictive and severe
This is inhumanity inits most extreme ways
Hamas is a terrorist organistion and also restricts its own peoples
Islam in its own jurisprudence,wishes to create universal Islam
Islam also wishes to combine state and religion
Most Islamic states inthe world are almost dictatorships
I think the severity of the Islamic religion with vast inequality in living standards ( in the Islam countries ) and severe oppression and brain washing of the peoples probaly creates the massive dysfuction of terrorism seen on the World tage
Islam is a repressive religion
God has full knowledge and control over all that occurs.
Muslims consider the Qur'an to be the literal word of God
The Qur'an states that all Muslims must believe in God, his revelations, his angels, his messengers, and in the "Day of Judgment".[16] Also, there are other beliefs that differ between particular sects.
If I am a Moslem and i go against the code without a doubt I will be punished
In Islam there is no deomcracy no talk of quantum fields or God or Divinity being within
God is outside and watching carefully all your actions supported by the repressive state and Immams
This form of feudalism and belief in state and control from above is at the begiinning of the spiral of growth and is level 1 to 4 in SPIRAL DYNAMIS---DR Don Beck
Level 4
Blue TruthForce Authority meaning; discipline; traditions; morality; rules; lives for later
Level 3
Red PowerGods Egocentric gratification; glitz; conquest; action; impulsive; lives for now Level 2 Purple KinSpirits Animistic rites; rituals; taboos; super- stitions; tribes; folk ways & lore
Level 1
Beige SurvivalSense Instinctive food; water; procreation; warmth; protection; stays alive
Strangely in Europe Islam is one of the fastest growing Religions
Moderate Islam is apparently a peaceful Religion with apparently no aims for World Domination
Possibly moderate Islam would be found in Europe. I cannot think of any other place apart from Australia
Has aybody any thoughts??
David Hawkins classifies Islam as a number which is pretty low on the scale of Religions
On page 308 of his power v/s force he lists terrorist organizations with connections to Islam, and of course calibrates them below 100 - the level of vengefulness
PLEASE CAN WE HAVE COMMENTS???
SEE THE FOLLOWING QUOTES FROM WIKIPAEDIA
Within Islamic jurisprudence, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam jihad is usually taken to mean military exertion against non-Muslim combatants in the defense or expansion of the Islamic state, the ultimate purpose of which is to universalize Islam. Jihad, the only form of warfare permissible in Islamic law, may be declared against apostates, rebels, highway robbers, violent groups, unIslamic leaders or states which refuse to submit to the authority of Islam.[64][65] Most Muslims today interpret Jihad as only a defensive form of warfare: the external Jihad includes a struggle to make the Islamic societies conform to the Islamic norms of justice.[66]
Hamas (???? ?am?s, an acronym of ???? ???????? ????????? ?arakat al-Muq?wamat al-Isl?miyyah, meaning "Islamic Resistance Movement") is a Palestinian Sunni Islamist paramilitary organization and political party which holds a majority of seats in the elected legislative council of the Palestinian National Authority.[1 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamas
Hamas was created in 1987 by Sheikh Ahmed Yassin, Abdel Aziz al-Rantissi and Mohammad Taha of the Palestinian wing of the Muslim Brotherhood at the beginning of the First Intifada. Notorious for its numerous suicide bombings and other attacks[2] on Israeli civilians and security forces, Hamas also runs extensive social programs[3] and has gained popularity in Palestinian society by establishing hospitals, education systems, libraries and other services[4] throughout the West Bank and Gaza Strip.[3] Hamas' charter calls for the destruction of the State of Israel and its replacement with a Palestinian Islamic state in the area that is now Israel, the West Bank, and the Gaza Strip.[5] Hamas describes its conflict with Israel as political and not religious[6] or antisemitic.[7] However, its founding charter, writings, and many of its public statements[8] reflect the influence of antisemitic conspiracy theories.[9]
--- On Tue, Jan 6, 2009, in msg266584, Starr* Saffa wrote ---
Greetings Michael et Al...
Please take some time to see what I am trying to explain...and if anything isn't written clearly or there are questions please respond so I know if we are in and understanding from which we can work further.
Michael talks of the myths religions have made, to me the most deliterious myth that has been perpetrated is that 'God' is exterior to us, when the Truth is that 'God' is within all Beings. Praise and thanksgiving, I think we are finally all on the same page with this one.
Michael wrote: Religions as Institutions are archaic self destructive and are not geared to an interior sprituality
They promote stories and myths only applicable to events which occurred sveral thosand years ago and are not applicable to a Globalised World
The Esoteric wisdom in all religion has a communiality This should be taught in schools
Starr*: Realizing this TRUTH is what the past 160 years has been leading up to.
I know I am repeating myself to you all, but the event that happened at the Conference of Badasht when Tahirih CLOSED THE GATE ON ALL PAST RELIGIOUS DISPENSATIONS She also OPENED the NEW GATE for humanity where the Eternal Truths could once again be gleaned anew. That is what we are doing today - gleaning anew.
When She closed the PAST 26,000 year Cycle it included all the dogma/myths that have been constructed in that period of time, thus throwing all the memes of those myths into chaos. Therefore, Source Energy is no longer supporting those constructs of Consciousness and people around the Globe are wondering why their religions no longer satisfy the needs of the Day and everyone is in confusion.
An analogy is: If you have a pitcher of water (Source) and you fill up a glass (religion) it has a lot of living energy. Now if you pour the water from the glass into another glass (progressive religion) some water drops stay in the first glass and the second glass has less water (Source-love-energy of Eternal Truths) - and so on through ten or more glasses, so that by the time you get to the last glass there isn't much of the Source energy or visibility of the Eternal Truths left.
Certainly if you are thristy there isn't much to drink. Therefore, a New Universal Gate has been opened with a fresh gigantic ocean of water (Source Oneness). This is the power and knowledge given to humanity as we make the Shift to a new Cycle.
Although the break down of the old and the opening of the new has been a dual process for the past 160 years the offical date of beginning the new is the end of Mayan calendar (Shift of the Ages, 21, 12, 2012).
If you notice I called the new ocean (Source Oneness Energy) in the above. That is, because like Bruce, I believe this is the time of the MANY HEARTS coming together as One.
So instead of the individual sending LOVE back to Source-Creating Consciousness only independently there is a Unified column of Light-Love Energy moving in a two way direction configuration --- from the Godhead at Source to Itself in the Many, and from the Many in the Lands of Being to the Godhead at Source. In this way we are coming back to Wholeness.
Bruce is calling us TO the Portal OF Unity (which can be seen as a Bright column of Light with the Energy moving in the two way direction). The two directional transference of the Knowledge/Experience on the Love-Light Wave is a very important part of a process which powers the evolution of an eternal living Creation. As such the DNA coding is always expanding infinitely.
In the above description it becomes necessary for the individual heart/mind to realize it keeps its own diversity and Consciousness at the same time that it plugs into a Unified Field (Portal) that is plugged into the Whole Oneness at Source, whereby the Source in turn Energizes All with It's Waves of Love. *In this Unified Field we discover our love for oneanother, which of course is none other than the love of the God/ess within all Beings (this dynamic can be discussed and brought into the picture more fully later so that we don't become overwhelmed or complicated with our iconology at this point).
I think that knowledge of this Two-way Energy exchange needs to be made common knowledge so that people understand why and how the Oneness works.
Question: Many seem to be getting the vision of coming together, how can we facilitate this without bringing all the old world order baggage into it? Basically, I think it is a focus on building the new Paradigm so people can see it visibly.
I want to THANK all of you who have been sending in the incredible drawings and pictures that communicate truths to me. Sometimes I just need to take a break from too many words so I can see it in a picture. I like the idea that Bruce is writing up clear and consise explanations for what the pictures represent for us. I like too, that the members are making comments on them. I am happy that the meaning in my picture came accross. Somehow I think we are going to come out with something that immediately attracks the GodHearts to a Unified Field of Oneness. If we don't, at least, when and where we see it, we will KNOW it.
Living Love, Starr*
--- On Tue, Jan 6, 2009, in msg266567, Michael Ellis wrote ---
Dear Ram Bruce
I completely agree
As Einstein said you cannot solve the problem from the same level on which it started
War breeds War
This has been going on for over 2000 years
This primitive nation against nation conflict of win lose has now no efficacy in a Globally interconnected world
Humanity should speak up against the Elite and Global monetocracy which keep billions of people in economic and emotional slavery through thought manipulation
Thankfully the tide is turning
We need new human systems of interaction and Integral politics emphasising the creation of value systems and wellbeing and greater decentralisation of democracy
An emphasis should be based on happiness
Religions as Institutions are archaic self destructive and are not geared to an interior sprituality
They promote stories and myths only applicable to events which occurred sveral thosand years ago and are not applicable to a Globalised World
The Esoteric wisdom in all religion has a communiality
This should be taught in schools
Michael
--- On Tue, Jan 6, 2009, in msg266553, Ram Varma wrote ---
Hi Bruce, et all,
Great Enlightement: "Feed what you want to grow". But how do you feed this wisdom into the mind- sets of Israel and Bush administrations for something real constructive to actually happen? Also the quote says:
>>>>If Israel truly wants peace, there's a more subtle, a more intelligent and more effective strategy to pursue than simply trying to kill the enemy and anyone else who happens to be in the vicinity.<<<
Completely agreed with this genuine approach. How do we reach out to the high-powered politicians who believe force can solve their long-outstanding problems. Even though they may militarily/forcefully stop-gap on a temporary basis, it will lead to suppression. And what then.........?
>>>It's this - instead of killing what threatens you, feed what you want to grow. Consider in what conditions peace can thrive, and create them, just as you would prepare the bed for the crops you want to plant. Find those among your opponents who also want peace, and support them. Make alliances. Offer your enemies incentives to change, and reward your friends.<<<
Wonderful! Very authentic philosophy indeed. However, the challenge still remains how this spirited vision going to be seen through practically in an action oriented fashion?
Do you think US new administration of Barak Obama-Hillary Clinton can sow some real seeds of this great enightened approach? Something I am genuinley waiting to see how Obama's statesmanship as a Spiritual Strategist is going to work out to turn things around? A great acid-test in the works! Or is it too much to expect?
Any thoughts in this direction please?
Peace is not far away if we are guided by the Spirit that is peace.
With peaceful vibrations........Ram
--- On Tue, Jan 6, 2009, in msg266549, Bruce Schuman wrote ---
Thanks for this. Starhawk makes such an important point -- "Feed what you want to grow".
If Israel truly wants peace, there's a more subtle, a more intelligent and more effective strategy to pursue than simply trying to kill the enemy and anyone else who happens to be in the vicinity.
It's this - instead of killing what threatens you, feed what you want to grow. Consider in what conditions peace can thrive, and create them, just as you would prepare the bed for the crops you want to plant. Find those among your opponents who also want peace, and support them. Make alliances. Offer your enemies incentives to change, and reward your friends.
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